God-man our God?
Hosea 11:9
'I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a man-- the Holy One among you. I will not come against their cities.' NIV
He didn't say I am not LIKE a man, hence it is definite that God separates himself from being a man, both in being, and in character.
They say: 'You are taking it out of context!' but as said before, this is what the text of the scriptures say.
Isaiah 31:3
The Egyptians are man, and not God, and their horses are flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD stretches out his hand, the helper will stumble, and he who is helped will fall, and they will all perish together. [ESV]
'I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.' [NIV]
Why is the LORD spelled in capital letters in english bibles, especially KJV?
Hosea 11:9
'I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a man-- the Holy One among you. I will not come against their cities.' NIV
He didn't say I am not LIKE a man, hence it is definite that God separates himself from being a man, both in being, and in character.
They say: 'You are taking it out of context!' but as said before, this is what the text of the scriptures say.
Isaiah 31:3
The Egyptians are man, and not God, and their horses are flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD stretches out his hand, the helper will stumble, and he who is helped will fall, and they will all perish together. [ESV]
INC doesn't normally use this verse, but all the same. It is clear. God is not a Man. God IS NOT Flesh.
Numbers 23:19
'"God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good? [NASB]
Ezekiel 28:2
"Son of man, give the prince of Tyre this message from the Sovereign LORD: "In your great pride you claim, 'I am a god! I sit on a divine throne in the heart of the sea.' But you are only a man and not a god, though you boast that you are a god. [NLT]
Ezekiel 28:2
"Son of man, give the prince of Tyre this message from the Sovereign LORD: "In your great pride you claim, 'I am a god! I sit on a divine throne in the heart of the sea.' But you are only a man and not a god, though you boast that you are a god. [NLT]
I think it is perfectly clear to us what God says about himself, he is God, Spirit, not Man/Flesh. But maybe God would change is mind and turn human to save them from sins? After all, everything is possible with God. Can he not do that? Surely his love for man would make him do anything!
Malachi 3:6
Malachi 3:6
They will say: You are taking this out of context! See, its about saving Israel, it says nothing about the LORD being able to change into human form!
Let's leave that for now.
Let's leave that for now.
Who is this LORD in all capital letters? is he the Father, Son, or Holy ghost?
Isaiah 63:6
'But you are our Father, though Abraham does not know us or Israel acknowledge us; you, LORD, are our Father, our Redeemer from of old is your name.'
They say: It's only one verse! you should be able to read the whole bible then you will know the truth! - We will answer that shortly.
Why is the LORD spelled in capital letters in english bibles, especially KJV?
So LORD is only a substitute for God's name which is:
Going back to their argument, here are the verses that prove that YHWH/LORD is the Father contrary to what catholic defenders are saying. The point is YHWH/LORD is, and wants his children to call him Father, not son, not holy ghost.
Read more verses below:
Read more verses below:
Jeremiah 3:19-20
“‘I said,
How I would set you among my sons,
and give you a pleasant land,
a heritage most beautiful of all nations.
AndI thought you would call me, My Father,
and would not turn from following me.
Surely, as a treacherous wife leaves her husband,
so have you been treacherous to me, O house of Israel,
declares the LORD.’”
Deuteronomy 32:6
Is this the way you repay the LORD, you foolish and unwise people? Is he not your Father, your Creator, who made you and formed you?
Isaiah 64:8
Yet you, LORD, are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.
How I would set you among my sons,
and give you a pleasant land,
a heritage most beautiful of all nations.
AndI thought you would call me, My Father,
and would not turn from following me.
Surely, as a treacherous wife leaves her husband,
so have you been treacherous to me, O house of Israel,
declares the LORD.’”
Deuteronomy 32:6
Is this the way you repay the LORD, you foolish and unwise people? Is he not your Father, your Creator, who made you and formed you?
Isaiah 64:8
Yet you, LORD, are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.
Now, would the LORD [YHWH/YHVH] violate his own pronouncement? would he take back his own words? Remember he said he is NOT a Man, would he violate his statement? so that he could become human and save mankind? Surely he is God! nothing is impossible with him! He will do it for his love for mankind, wouldn't he?
But the scripture's say different:
But the scripture's say different:
Isaiah 31:1-2
Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help,
who rely on horses,
who trust in the multitude of their chariots
and in the great strength of their horsemen,
but do not look to the Holy One of Israel,
or seek help from the Lord.
2Yet he too is wise and can bring disaster;
he does not take back his words.
He will rise up against that wicked nation,
against those who help evildoers. [NIV]
You are taking this out of context! - they say.
But the Bible says otherwise:
Hebrews 6:18
'so that we who have found refuge in him may find strong encouragement to hold fast to the hope set before us through two unchangeable things, since it is impossible for God to lie.' [NET bible]
John 17:1,17
After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:
“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.
We know that the true God who is LORD [YHVH] who is to be called Father will not change because:
James 1:17
'Whatever is good and perfect comes down to us from God our Father, who created all the lights in the heavens. He never changes or casts a shifting shadow.' [NLT]
Keep calm. God will never change and become Human, because that is what's explicitly written. So what of those other ones who preach that God became human? And what does it mean if God did become human after all?
It means that God can, at will, take back his word, repudiate, cancel it. And what else? It means we are all in trouble, because he is a liar, he cannot keep his word, so when he says he will save his people, it cannot be trusted, we may all be destroyed after all, because it is possible that God will cancel his words or promises for he has done it before.
But remember:
'I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.' [NIV]
And who would dare imply that God is a liar? Well...Remember him?
Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
It means that God can, at will, take back his word, repudiate, cancel it. And what else? It means we are all in trouble, because he is a liar, he cannot keep his word, so when he says he will save his people, it cannot be trusted, we may all be destroyed after all, because it is possible that God will cancel his words or promises for he has done it before.
But remember:
Malachi 3:6
'I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.' [NIV]
And who would dare imply that God is a liar? Well...Remember him?
Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
